What an absolute delight to hear the personal reflections on play as a spiritual practice from two of InterPlay Australia’s cofounders, my dear friends Susannah Pain and Rod Pattenden on ABC Radio National Wed 25 Sep 2024. WOW! Dip into this hour-long interview hosted by Dr. Meredith Lake on Australia’s Radio Program Soul Search, and partake of the magic of movement, visual art, writing, and heartfelt play as it sources spiritual life.
At the inception of InterPlay, it was my joy to provoke a cosmic romp through the mysterious, wild beauty of improvisation, art, creation, and divine connection. Trying to make sense of life in a religious context, I needed more than the promising hints, gestures, and hushed undercurrents alluded to in texts and sacraments especially when a cosmic lightbulb went on any time I danced and improvised with Phil Porter.
Why was ecstatic ordinary playful creativity so taboo? Why was play a four-letter word in Protestantism yet also the holy of holies? Why was releasing our obligation to productivity and dowsing ourselves in humanity so liberating?
Finding brilliant souls like Rod and Sue was such a consolation. When the light went on in my peers, it filled me with hope. When they took the wisdom of embodied play into their lives, built on it and led from it, I knew the genius of life was at work. In addition to fostering personal and group freedom, we were uncovering a way of dancing with life where community care and right relations could be seeded and thrive again. Over time I’ve witnessed this wisdom grow green tendrils in many people and movements. Hallelu.
As you listen to the cofounders of InterPlay Australia perhaps you will be as inspired as I am by their courageous hearts, humility, and potent leadership. Rev Susanna Pain is an ordained Anglican priest, and senior associate of the ecumenical Benedictus Contemplative Church in Canberra. Rev Dr Rod Pattenden, is an artist, art historian, educational facilitator, and former chair of the Blake Prize for religious art. Check out his amazing art is on his website.


Dancing Saints from St. Gregorry Nissa Episcipal Church
